Legislative Assembly Honourable Alexander B. Campbell : In any event, Mr. Speaker , that debt in 1969 when the Opposition took over, the per capita debt was $290.00. It rose by 1964 to $860.00; the next year it took another jump of $40.00 to $406.00; It went in 1M6 to $465.00, and by next year according; to the estimate of the external auditor for the year ending; March SI , 1967, it will rise to $668.69 per capita. Robert E. Campbell : Dear, dear, dear! Honourable Alexander B. Campbell : It has, Mr. Speaker , doubled and what has happened in our neighbouring provinces? Walter R. Shaw : Tell us about the cc-ordinators. Honourable Alexander B. Campbell : We will sret to that in a moment, Sir . We will get you co-ordinated in your thinking on that. But, Mr. Speaker , in Nova Scotia the per capita debt has been going down. In New Brunswick the per capita debt has been going down. Walter R. Shaw : They got a better deal from Ottawa. Honourable Alexander B. Campbell : Oh, now, Mr. Speaker , I want to have a few words on that subject as well. Walter R. Shaw : I hope you do. Honourable Alexander B. Campbell : The only justification that the Govern¬ ment was able to offer the people, other than criticising Ottawa, and they were not criticizing Ottawa in 1963 — 1961 and we will have some further passages to quote, was that they built. They said we built roads, we built schools, we built this, we built that. So is the Stanfield Government and so is the Robichaud Government building them, and they were able to keep within reasonable limits of their revenues, Mr. Speaker . That is the unfortunate thing. But let's return to page 418. What does he say and what was his commitment after six months in office to the people of the province? "We cannot go forward any farther with debt. It is impossible to do it. We cannot go any farther than $80,000,000." He said that. Some Member : Did he say that? Honourable Alexander B. Campbell : "We cannot go farther than $80,000,000 of a net debt in this province or we will become a receivership. So we are attempting now with the revenues that we have on hand by careful and efficient management, by the introduction of sales tax," and don't forget, Mr. Speaker , this is the Govern¬ ment that introduced the sales tax, "to balance the budget and bring sanity into the public affairs.'* And in the concluding sentence, "I am sure that as we go on in governing this province from year to year that we will not only give these services but we will reduce the debt of this province as well." Mr. Speaker , their record is clear, but while we are on the subject of finances, Mr. Speaker , I would hope that that advisor, Mr. Leader of the Opposition, would not leave because there are matters of pertinent interest to him as well. Hon. Robert E , Campbell: He will sneak away after.... Honourable Alexander B. Campbell : Mr. Speaker , the Leader of the Opposition continues to refuse to admit that there was improvement in our financial position aa a result of the last Federal-Provincial Conference. He tells us what a terrible deal we got and the facts disclose that it was the best adjustment that this province has ever received. Walter R. Shaw : Ho, ho, ho. Honourable Alexander B. Campbell : In 1961, Mr. Speaker , what did he get? $800,000. When he came back to this Legislature, Mr. Speaker , to report to this House on that great windfall of $800,000 what did he say? "Surely as citizens of this country we would be grateful for every grant, for every support we can get from the federal government, whether it be a Liberal or Conservative government there." Then he continued with these enchanting words. "Now, I can assure you of this," he —62—