Thursday, April 20, 1967 almost disqualifies anyone of ever being able to obtain these scholarships. And I want to read what is says, Mr. Speaker . "A scholarship of $800.00 would be awarded to each student entering the Degree Course with an average of at least 80%." That's a pretty stiff demand, and I don't believe it is any good; I don't know who is going to qualify for it. Now what do they do in some of the other provinces when they want to help out young men in the way of formal education towards their B.Sc . in Agriculture? They give a grant of $160.00 towards their tuition, they give addi¬ tional grants at different times, scholarships and bursaries; they give a student loan of up to 75% of tuition and board. A student loan, no loans available in this province? Honourable Daniel J. MacDonald : Yes there are. Keith S. Harrington : For students taking agriculture at OAC? Honourable Daniel J. MacDonald : Certainly. Keith S. Harrington : Well I know more than one that has applied for it and could not get it. Honourable Daniel J. MacDonald : I wonder, Sir, pardon me a second..... (Rest of remark inaudible) Keith S. Harrington : Besides that 75% student loan they give a grant of 25% to that student who attends those colleges, and if they can't come back, then if the student can't come back, special concessions made after that. When did they become available, honourable member? Honourable Daniel J. MacDonald : They have been available, Sir . Pardon me, Mr. Speaker , I had a letter from students in Upper Canada , and this was their re¬ quest and I sent them the application forms. I haven't heard since. Keith S. Harrington : Well, this is recently then. Walter R. Shaw : That the old, old one that has been in operation for years. Honourable Daniel J. MacDonald : No it's not. Walter R. Shaw : Yes, it is the same thing. Honourable Daniel J. MacDonald : What's the same thing? Walter R. Shaw : The loans that have been in operation for a long time. L. George Dewar : Student Loan. It is not an agricultural loan. Keith S. Harrington : Well, Mr. Speaker , I have the floor. However, I know students who applied for this and were unable to get it. Mr. Speaker : Order, please. Keith S. Harrington : Thank you, Mr. Speaker , thank you very much. One other thing I was disappointed too in that all across this province this year this Government was assisting through the Manpower Retraining in the Voca¬ tional and Technical Schools of our province people who wanted to improve their qualifications as welders, as carpenters, and many other course, but lo and behold, there wasn't any mention of any assistance given to the young man in agriculture who wanted to upgrade his training. None at all and I would like to say, Mr. Speaker ; I know the members on the opposite side recognize that this was available to stud¬ ents if the government would have made it available. In the field of education we are going to have our problems. Financing edu¬ cation is going to be the number one problem for sometime yet to come, and in an endeavour to maintain and operate the hoped for kindergartens, the elementary con¬ solidated schools, the high schools and our Universities, we are going to have to be burdened with some extra costs. This province has just completed a satisfactory development in the building of high schools and vocational schools by the former Government, and I think that very little criticism can be given in this respect We —284—