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Honourable Cecil A. Miller: We paid for their Workmen’s Compensation, we paid for their Un: mployment Insurance :nd this same Mr. Moe was drawin commis~ sions on everything that came into the plant and everything that went out. fie wasn’t a man that was worrying‘about Bathurst Marine or Gulf Garden; he was drawing com- missions on everyt hin e was a commission merchant. I remember the first meeting we had with the Norwegian people who came here seeking redress for the wrongs that have been foisted upon them and our Premier, sitting here at the head of the table, in his very kind manner, said “What about those commissions ?" All during the four or five hours that this conference took place never once did Mr. Moe open his mouth. The Premier said “What about these Commissions”? He asked it the second time and Mr. Davis from Gulf Garden Foods arose to 've an explanation. Mr. Davis was an em- ployee of Mr. Moe, therefore his first loya ty, I suppose, was to Mr. Moe. He t up to give us an explanation and he began to flounder a little and the only words t t were spoken during that whole conference by Mr. Moe were two, he turned around and said “Sit Down” and the other gentleman collapsed. (Laughter)

There were boats bein built, there were boats being transferred, there were boats fishing and there were ish coming in, there were fish being processed, and there were fish being sold and the Fishermen’s Loan Board of Prince Edward Island couldn't derive one dollar from it. Where was it going? Where was it heading? Where were we heading for if we continued with the taxpayers money at that rate. We poured thous- ands, hundreds of thousands of dollars into those two plants to try and put them on a

paying basis, and then we receive a series of questions, such as put before us by these two gntlemen and two more at the conference over there, to endeavour to lead the gen- eral public into believing that we are either a bunch of damn fools or we are crooks.

J. Cyril Sinnott: If the shoe fits, wear it.

Honourable Cecil A. Miller: It will fit you to open your mouth Sir. We'll catch you. You asked me a question one day and I gave you a straightforward answer to it. You told me I was lying and the next day you had to come in here and apologize and when you did, you did it in only half a minute.

J. Cyril Snnott: Not apologize to you.

Honourable Cecil A. Miller: You did, I have got the transcrigt right here. You said “He’s lying” and you used the same expression with regard to t e Premier of this Province and not only that, not only that . . .

J. Cyril Sinnott: Now Mr. Speaker, on a point of Privilege; I at no time refer- red to any remarks made .

Some Member: (Remark inaudible).

J. Cyril Sinnott: Yes it is; he said that I was 1”in and that is not true and as a matter of Privilege, at no time did I every say that the inister of Fisheries was lying. He is quite incorrect. I ask the Premier . .

Honourable Cecil A. Miller: Here is the transcript. Here is the transcript.

J. Cyril Sinnott: Just a minute till I finish; just a second until I finish; sit down until I finish.

Honourable Cecil A. Miller: I have the floor, Mr. Speaker; he can do his talk- ing when I am through. I have the floor; I did not interrupt him or any other Mem- ber.

J. Cyril Sinnott: I will leave it to you Mr. Speaker.

L. George Dewar: I ask for your ruling on this, Mr. Speaker, it is a matter of of privilege, Mr. Speaker.

J. Cyril Sinnott: At no time did I ever refer to the Minister of Fisheries as a person who “is lying”; I merely said that the answer he gave to one of my questions was incomct. I roved it was incorrect; I asked him to withdraw and bring back a proper answer. Applause)

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