Thursday, May 18, 1967

i: into the broadcasting, you will say that I made an error. Now, this year it is fist over two million. You are down on agriculture.

Honourable Daniel J. MacDonald: I am not.

Walter R. Shaw: You will be the president of Government that is being reduced. Honourable Daniel J. MacDonald: No, I'm not.

Walter R. Shaw: District President.

Honourable Daniel J. MacDonald: I’m not. You are wrong.

Walter R. Shaw: Now listen. . . .

Honourable Daniel J. MacDonald: I ask, Mr. Speaker, may I be permitted to make a statement?

Walter R. Shaw: No, you can’t say it, I have the floor. SolIIe Member: Yes he can.

Walter R. Shaw: You had a chance to say all you wanted to and I didn't say a {19rd, but here it is, the fourth time, $2,455,000.00; This year it is just over two nu ma.

It is not hard to understand these figures. Now, I would like to, and I am going to keep within my time, Mr. Premier, I am going to be through here at eleven o'clock even if I stop in the middle of a short word.

Honourable Alexander B. Campbell: Cut it short. Walter R. Shaw: Now, I would like to say this. . . . Honourable Alexander B. Campbell: How many letters?

Walter R. Shaw: I would like to say that I am concerned, Mr. Premier, Mem- bers of the Legislature, in the Government, I am tremendously concerned about the plans of the present Government on this comprehensive plan that you are ta about. I don’t think anyone knows anything about it. I don’t think that any Member of the House knows anything about it. I don't; the Premier has admitted he doesn’t, and a large amount of money was put through the estimates for this. I think that is a very, very dangerous experiment. This thing has just simply been pulled out of northern New Brunswick.

Honourable Alexander B. Campbell: No.

Walter R. Shaw: That’s all. Honourable Alexander B. Campbell: No.

Walter R. Shaw: The man that is here as the architect of it hasn’t a thing to offer us on it. We have not any reports coming in from Acres. Who put it up . I ask the men in the Departments of Agriculture if they knew anything about it, and they can’t tell me. What is going on anyway? I will say this, Mr. Premier; I think that we can take these plans and surveys and we can extract parts of these that can apply in some sections of the Province of Prince Edward Island to great advantage. But I don’t believe in a broad survey, in the application of something that’s going to move farmers off their land and take them into centers. Where are they goin 2 Where are they going after that? It is alright for New Brunswick and Nova Sco a; they have the industries that can absorb them. Have we got these industries? We haven’t. And when you take men off the farm, there is only one thing to be done with them when you train them; you are training them to leave this Province. Now someone in here the other day said that it was alright to sacrifice two thousand farmers. He mentioned that we would likely get down to two thousand five hundred farms on Prince Edward Island, which would be a drop of five thousand.

Honourable Alexander B. Campbell: If nothing is done.

Walter R. Shaw: I don't agree to that principle at all. I think that with the develOpment that is taking place, situated as we are right on the edge of the world

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