Legislative Assembly AValter R. Shaw : Now is there anything else you want to know about farmers? Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : Well, just want to. . . Walter R. Shaw : You go in and ask the Corporation in here, they are working out the plan. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : You have been telling us we are closing down the family farm, and I just wonder which one it is? Walter R. Shaw : The average size of a farm in this Province I suppose at the present time is about 120 acres. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : What is it? Frank Myers : I would say 150 acres. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : Now you said a medium-sized farm was 150. Walter R. Shaw : Well take your average-sized farm if you wish. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : Medium farm or the average farm? Walter R. Shaw : Now work that out from your statistics. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : All right. Now what's a family farm? Walter R. Shaw : That's the same. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell . A family farm is a medium farm. Walter R. Shaw : The family farm is usually a medium sized farm. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : Usually? Walter R. Shaw : And as a matter of fact the family farm may range down to a very small farm. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : Don't you find a family on almost every farm? Walter R. Shaw : Why of course you do. How the devi! would you expect to operate a farm if you didn't have someone on it? Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : What difference does it make what size it is? Walter R. Shaw : Well of course it does. Now you want to brighten up, my dear Premier, because I am afraid you are very much in the dark in this regard, as well as a great many other things. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : Carry on, Sir; a fine speech! Walter R. Shaw : Now I understand the Legislature is not to be told the intimate details of this strange document, and may I say again, in case there is any mis¬ understanding, that this is no reflection upon this Corporation. Now these may be the greatest fellows you could find from one end of Canada to the other. I wouldn't know one of them if they came in the door. They never came to me to ask me any information, although I have been in agriculture for quite a long time in this province, and I think I know something about the plans that might be necessary to develop an agricultural plan. But they don't do that, they go off by themselves. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : Across the hall. Walter R. Shaw : We haven't one agriculturist from Prince Edward Island on that group in there. Not one, and that is what I take objection to, and I feel that if we had some of our own men in on that we would have a diversity of opinions, we would have the cross-section and the value of men wbo have been associated with agricul¬ ture in this country for many years. Now I would like to say, too, that the plan being considered is of long-term character — something the same applies to New Brunswick and Nova Scotia — there's has been going on in the desk stage for two years, and I don't think there —30—