Thursday, February 29, 1968 the need for produce for this plant, because when the plant was established the former government undertook, by written agreement, not to establish any other processing plant within a twenty-five mile radius, and this plant is consuming farm products in that area, and can consume as much as 70% more than it is present¬ ly receiving. And so our prospects for further cole crops and vegetables grown in this province. The Federal Government pays us $150,000 a year to import barley, grain and wheat from the West and yet the Leader of the Opposition would not have us grow the feed which we need for our own livestock, hogs, and what have you. We could use this 400,000 acres of additional agricultural land, Mr. Speaker , to feed Maritimers, to feed Maritimers because at the present time the Maritime Provinces are importing a very good percentage of the agricultural products which they re¬ quire from day to day to feed themselves. Twice the Island production of hogs is coming in from the States and this is only one example .... Walter R. Shaw : No, no, no. That statement's not correct, Mr. Premier. Hon. Alexander B. Campbell : How many? Something like sixty percent of the poultry used in the Maritimes .... Walter R. Shaw : We haven's three hundred thousand head of hogs coming in from the United States to the Maritimes. Where did you get that statement? Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : I'm sorry. You're quite right, my friend. Your absolutely correct. The same amounts, we produce about 130,000 head and this is approximately the number of heads that is imported from the states. Walter R. Shaw : No, no, no. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : Oh, yes, Sir. Walter R. Shaw: Oh, no. We might as well be sensible about this. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : I'll argue those figures any day with you, Sir. Walter R. Shaw: Well, you can argue but they're not correct. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : Well, that's what has been wrong with this Province. And yesterday the Leader of the Opposition suggested that the answer to our problem is price. That has always been a favorite solution advocated by many as the solution to the problems of agriculture, the problems of fisheries, the problems of so many things here in the Province. I may say that it is a popular concept and it is popular in the Province to say 'Get the price up and we'll produce the goods', and I'm very certain, Mr. Speaker , that it is true that if the price were higher, we'd produce more. If the price were double, we'd produce twice as much but the Leader of the Opposition must realize, after trying for seven years, that Governments do not influence the price. Walter R. Shaw : We had pretty good times during that seven years. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : Governments cannot increase the price. Walter R. Shaw : Of course it can increase the price. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : By subsidies? Walter R. Shaw : Not necessarily. By wise policy. Hon . Alexander B. Campbell : This comes back to the divine right to rule that I referred to the other day, Mr. Speaker , and now the Leader of the Opposi¬ tion says that if he were back in power again he would establish policies raising the prices on all of our agricultural products, raising the prices on all of our fisheries products, and what have you? Just outline the policy and there you go, the price goes up. Walter R. Shaw : .Sure, that's right, that's right. —63—