Lot 16. Barren land defined. The cost of clearing. Lot 7. Barren defined. A lumberman 's viewpoint. Barren land defined. Barren land defined. Lumber almost all taken off. Putting a value on land. fir and ash are the woods which grow on it. There is no doubt that a great deal of the land is soft now, and therefore utterly valueless, but in time when the adjoining land is cleared it will become valuable. Some of the unleased land on Lot 16 is very indifferent, and some is tolerably good. Some of that which is not good is known as barrens, and has almost nothing on it but a few bushes and some small spruce. It is not capable of cultivation at present, but I have no doubt that it will be in time. Cross—examined: | chained all that line between Lots 9 and 10. There are two or three little hills of hardwood there that I call good. I do not know that there would be five or six hundred acres. The rest of the land there is what I call indifferent. The land is barren at the back of Felix McKinnon’s. I would call that land barren on which there is only small spruce as big as your wrist. All the land in that particular place is of very indifferent description. Perhaps there are one or two thousand acres. There is a strip of good land near Lot 6. The cost of clearing land is about £3 an acre. It costs from twenty to thirty shillings an acre for cutting down—a few shillings for burning up, and as much more for clearing up. £5 would not clear and stump an acre of green land to do at once. When I said E3 I did not include the cost of the stumping. [pp. 135-37] Stewart Estate [66,727 acres on Lots 7, 10, 12, 27, 30, 46, and 47]. Amos McWil/Iams, Lot 7 : Some parts of Lot 7 are not bad, others are worthless. The Lot is settled along the shore and the O’Leary road. The barren extends back about 100 chains, and I might say that it is worthless. The barren falls away to the eastward, and then continues about 60 chains. There is a small neck of good land, and then it falls into barrens again. Then there is some lumber land, and that brings you to the rear line that divides Lot 7 from Lots 5 and 4. There would be well on to 1000 acres of what I would call poor or inferior land, that is on the part that l have been describing. What I have called barren has nothing on it. There are I think between 600 and 700 acres of that. It is burnt. The front is burnt up, and then there is a small strain of ash, and then you get into the burnt barrens again. With the burnt barrens and the inferior land there are about 1000 acres. This includes inferior land but with lumber on it. Cross-examined: l have been over the land looking for timber. l have had a permit sometimes, and sometimes a roving commission, and when I got a stick I told them. If the stick suited me I cut it, and told them of it. Of late years | always did so, but I will not swear that before 1860 | always told. It would not be stealing. To take money would be stealing. i believe many did more than I did. I do not know how Stewart could lose what he never had. The proprietor’s land is public property to us. I cannot tell exactly how much I paid Stewart. I call the burnt land barren. If there had been hardwood upon it and it had been burnt off, I would not call it barren. That which has shrubbery upon it and has been burnt I call barren. [pp. 189-901 John Cocheran, Lot 7 : There is barren land upon the Lot. I should say that between barren land and swamps there are from 1000 to 2000 acres. I mean by barren land that which is wholly barren, or where low spruce bushes grow. In the spring it is wet, and it is almost impossible to travel on it. It is not fit for raising crops. There is some [wilderness land] upon which there is a larger growth of wood, such as fence poles and scantling, but still it is low land. the lumber is the most that is of any use about it, and that is almost all taken off. With the lumber off 1 would not take it at any price. Cross-examined: l have wilderness land upon my farm. There is very little hard wood upon it. Some of the wood land is like these barrens. [pp. 192-93] Peter Doyle, Lot 7 : I think there are about 2,000 acres of what we call barren and swampy land. Half of this would be of no value, and the other half would be worth about 60 cents. The lumber has been pretty much taken off, and it is, therefore, not so valuable. A fair price for the landlord’s interest in the vacant hardwood land would be 80 cents, and 188